we feel good that romney and ryan are delivering a message that will resonate with the american people. liz: do you think you win ohio. >> we feel really good about ohio. obviously it is going to be competitive. a lot of stuff going on there, a lot of campaigning over the next week potentially, but we do feel good about ohio and we're hopeful there. charles: thank you very much. listen, we know it is going to be one heck of a brawl so we look forward to talking to you again. >> thank you. charles: illinois's massive debt is starting to cause severe cuts in services bridges roads even the education. the school system suffering mightily. this could just be the beginning. illinois's direct debt is now 58 billion dollars. joining us now is john tillman from the illinois policy institute. a lot of people reacting to the illinois report. the report of the state budget crisis task force, a big-time report, and the thing is for me, it's all the reasons why this so, you know, there's so many problems. it's not just one thing. we're talking about the budget process, underfunded retirement benefi